While browsing the Internet, I stumbled across an interesting blog called
The Australian Ape Project. This blog is used to chronicle discoveries and activities of a team made up of independent wildlife enthusiasts and bush survival experts who are investigating reports of ape-like creatures at a location on the coast of Queensland. According to the team (consisting of Ray Doherty, Nigel Francis, Anthony Laponovich and Brad Payne), their expeditions (which started in 2011) have brought forth fruitful evidence such as tree and ground nests, nonhuman footprints, ape-like vocalizations, tree knocking, quick glimpses, and even a few alleged photographs. I will be sharing the evidence here, but I also wanted to share an interesting chart which depicts their theory of how the 'Australian Apes' (often referred to as Yowies and the Junjudee) made it to Australia. The question of how these animals got to Australia was my problem with the existence of 'Australian Bigfoot' for a long time. I had originally theorized that perhaps the 'Australian Bigfoot' could be descendants of Homo erectus which had rafted to Australia. However, I have read that a land bridge between Southeast Asia and Australia very likely existed (as the sea levels in the region were much lower) and could allow pongids like Gigantopithecus to make it there. If a land bridge didn't exist, island hopping is always a possibility which known animals have used.This chart by Ray Doherty is intriguing, and is an interesting theory on how these primates got to Australia.
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| Please note that I do not necessarily agree with the views presented in this chart. While I do think that the Australian Apes (if they exist) are an offshoot of the Gigantopithecus branch, I do not fully agree with other views presented here. |
So now that you have viewed the chart, I would like to share the evidence that the Australian Ape Project team has collected.
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| The logo on the website for The Australian Ape Project. |
Arguably one of the best forms of evidence for reported unidentified hominoids are footprints. These signs left behind can show anatomically accurate primate features, animation of the foot, dermatoglyphics, and features which analyzers who are very knowledgeable of primate foot anatomy say could not be faked. The Australian Ape Project team has collected some interesting footprint evidence, which they have shared with Dr. Meldrum (although I have yet to hear of a response). They do seem to have an intriguing resemblance to tracks that are allegedly of the North American Sasquatch and one imprint even seems to exhibit forefoot contact with the lack of a heel, which is possibly indicative of the presence of a midtarsal break in the foot. There also does seem to be some interesting animation with the feet in the mud, which wouldn't happen if they were fake. However, there is always the possibility that these are the prints of a barefoot person (especially in Australia where barefoot "bush walking" does occur). However, some of these prints were child-sized and were in the water (I doubt that a child was walking around barefoot and that someone was walking around in the water). A few of the prints also look broader than a human foot, which is also indicative that these are likely not human prints. In my opinion, this is solid evidence that there may be a nonhuman ape in this region of Australia (although further examination by professionals would be required to rule out a human origin).
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| Possible juvenile Australian Ape footprint found on January 9 of 2013: 7 inches long and 5.5 inches across the ball |
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| 32 centimeter footprint found on April 26 of 2012. |
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| 36 centimeter long footprint; found on April 26 of 2012 |
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| Footprint found in May of 2012 |
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Child size footprint found on April 26 of 2012. Possible midtarsal flexion.
Appears to be forefoot contact with heel off of the ground. |
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Comparison of a forefoot print found in Queensland and two forefoot tracks of the North American Wood Ape (Sasquatch).
The impression of a forefoot with no heel seems to indicate midtarsal flexibility in these animals' feet. |
Another form of "evidence" that the Australian Ape Project has collected is less convincing than the footprints, in my opinion. This evidence is in the form of photographs, which (in my perspective) really won't help convince anyone of the existence of 'Australian Apes'. The photograph that does look most intriguing to me, as it does appear that something is standing there, was taken in August 15, 2012. While restocking one of their bait stations, Australian Ape Project team members reportedly had rocks thrown at them and then glimpsed what they likened to the back of a lowland gorilla. Later, Ray Doherty saw a large shadow on a riverbank and took the following photograph.
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| The original photogrpah taken by Ray Doherty. |
Upon further examination of the photograph, it appears that something is standing in front of a tree on the riverbank. The object in question does appear to be a different color than its surroundings, but the distance makes the photograph blurry once it is magnified. The object was measured at 6.5 to 7 feet tall and it does appear to be standing bipedally, so perhaps this is a photograph of a previously undiscovered great ape (perhaps a relict Gigantopithecus) in Australia. However, the quality of the photograph makes it inconclusive and will not convince any skeptics.
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Magnification of the subject in the photograph. Something appears to be standing in front of the tree.
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| Enhanced magnification. Does it show an undiscovered great ape? |
The other photograph which I found slightly intriguing was taken by a trail camera (which was set to take 3 shots per activation) on September 9th of 2012. The photographs in question show what may be the arm of a juvenile Australian Ape lying in the canopy, although I personally think that it is simply shadows or a trick of light. However, the subject was estimated at a size of 3 feet 4 inches and it does seem to move in the tree. So perhaps it does show a juvenile of a Lazarus Taxon primate species in Australia. But again, photographs like this will not convince anyone.
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| A juvenile Australian Ape in a tree, or a trick of light? |
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| Enhancement of the subject in question. |
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| Please click to enlarge. A diagram showing possible movement of the subject in the game camera images. |
The last form of evidence that the team has found is extremely intriguing, in my opinion. The team has found several nests and beds, in areas where Australian Apes have been reportedly encountered, which have striking similarities to known great ape nests and beds. The team has consulted local academic institutions, which have ruled out known animals such as pigs and kangaroos as the creators of these nests. The article that the team has made regarding these intriguing finds is very professional and well constructed, and I felt that it would be best to simply share the link instead of trying to summarize the data. The article can be found here:
http://theaustralianapeproject.blogspot.com/2013/02/australian-ape-nesting-and-great-ape.html.
Thank you for reading this article. I would like to thank the Australian Ape Project team for their hard work, and especially Ray Doherty for replying to my email and sending the chart. The Australian Ape Project blog can be found at
http://theaustralianapeproject.blogspot.com/. If you are further interested in the possibility of these 'Australian Apes', I would suggest this nice article by palaeontologist Darren Naish:
http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2010/01/19/the-yowie-australian-bigfoot/. It is nice to see a qualified scientist take an open minded look at reports of unidentified primates, and I thought it would be beneficial to viewers if I included it here. Once again, please make sure to visit the website of the Australian Ape Project. I truly think that this team of researchers may have great success in the future, as they are taking a scientific approach to this enigma and have been trying to act as amateur primatologists.
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Hi Jay. The idea currently that there has not been a direct land connection between Indonesia (or Sundaland) and Australia for a very long time, probably the whole length of the Age of Mamals or nearly so. SOME of the Yowies are undoubtedly merely displaced but otherwise ordinary orangutans, in the very North of Australia, and there is a blog entry up at the Frontiers of Zoology for it: others are much more nearly human and presumably close to Solo man in Indonesia. There is indeed evidence of mixing in very old types of humans in Australia, but the exact taxonomic standing of these people is in doubt (they are ?H.sapiens ?H erectus)However there is no good evidence for Gigantopithecus in Australia as opposed to "Meganthropus". Some of the Pygmy types are thought to be Pygmy humans. The human ones are not "Unknown Animals.
ReplyDeleteGood to be talking to you again, currently nursing a pulled muscle in my back and not able to sit at the computer for long.
Best Wishes, Dale D.
Thanks for the input! I had the Meganthropus theory in the back of my mind while writing this, as I wasn't entirely positive that a land bridge did exist. My problem with the idea that they are relict H. erectus such as Meganthropus is that reports indicate a generally gorilla like biped. Darren Naish mentions how this adds to the confusion in the link I provided above. I have heard theories that Meganthropus were robust Australopithecines, but there would be the problem of how they got there again. Thanks for your input, and I hope you feel better.
DeleteThere might not have been a direct land connection, however during the ice ages the oceans were several hundred feet lower allowing tiny islands to pop up, and thus an island hopping swim route. Since Bigfoots have been seen swimming in the oceans, especially around Vancouver Island it is possible. I have read most of Australian researcher Dean Anderson's web pages, and one thing for sure is that their are Yowies (Bigfoots) in Australia, especially Queensland and New South Whales and their behavior and appearance are identical to the NA Bigfoots, though perhaps not quite as tall and robust. They got their somehow.
ReplyDeleteI appreciate your research Jay.
Chuck
That's what I think is most likely. We are finding that many apes weren't as unable to swim as we had previously thought. I remember seeing a video of bears swimming island to island in Vancouver, so it's certainly plausible that a large primate could do this also. Thanks for the input.
DeleteThe island hopping I have seen first hand here in WA. Not by primates but deer, elk, bears, and coyote. Several cases of this happen on the San Juans and the south Sound islands. I have seen deer and coyote swimming around Anderson island and Ketron. On Alder Lake is an island that deer and bear swim out to. I have found fresh tracks on it. Another island on the lake becomes attached during low water but I have found fresh tracks of all kinds of animals on it while still an island.
ReplyDeleteThe photo of the thing in front of the tree looks like a koala bear to me. Looks like it is just hanging there and the brush makes it look tall. The "face" of it matches a koala closely too.
Yet another good read. Can't wait for your next one.
That's always a possibility. I really didn't want to focus on the photos as evidence as much as the footprints and possible nests. Thanks for the comment!
DeleteSorry Big Jim but not unless Koala bears hit 6'7 - besides Koala's are not in this section of forest
ReplyDeleteRay
I am just going off the picture. That tree is no where near 6' across so I am not sure what you used for reference to get the size. The tree looks closer to a foot and maybe half across. Which makes the thing fairly small unless it is only the head sticking above the brush.
DeleteBased off how koalas hang on trees you can see shades the same color right where the arm and leg of a koala on a tree would be. The top of the head has the classic koala profile too. Putting that with the Sunshine coast being smack center of the koala range and the area most koalas are seen, well, makes it even more likely.
I am not denying you had something throwing rocks and such. What I think happened was when it ran off it spooked the koala up the tree which you then saw and snapped the pic of before the koala took off. At over a hundred meters in thick brush anything sticking out of the brush could be misidentified.
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ReplyDeleteI had to remove this comment due to false claims being made. Anonymous commenters can be a danger through impersonating others or making information up. Sorry.
DeleteAnother great article Jay!
ReplyDeleteThanks
DeleteAnonymous - I found most of the foot prints and unlike I am not afraid to hide behind a fake name
ReplyDeleteJB - you have made a slanderous and defamatory statment, so go off to the little rock you came from a drop off. Dont you dare sully our work with political agenda you idiot
Its people like you that give geniune field researchers a bad name
I've removed the comment, I'm sorry for the person's rudeness.
DeleteHi I am Nigel and I would love to know what audio I have supposively put out thier in 2004..Please let me no ....Yes i have found footprints in the past as for audio back then sorry to wreck your fun but no I have not.This would be one steven carter at a guess what still cut at me hey and this is how you try and get back at me...Any time you want to meet feel free...
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DeleteI will not be having an argument involving hoaxing claims on my blog! I have simply been sharing what I think is intriguing evidence, and I have not been supporting them or asked to support them monetarily. I am not naive at all, and I still see no reason to suspect a hoax. Please share your name and remove your anonymous identity and then I may consider your claims.
DeleteI've removed the comment, I'm sorry for the person's rudeness.
ReplyDeleteHi Big Jim
ReplyDeleteIn my report I said the nest is 6 meters off of the ground (forest floor) not wide, from where the camera was it is another 1.5 meters deeper to the forest floor. Also as mentioned, we have been working the area heavily for two years and not once has we found a Koala. The trees they eat are not in this area and none can be found close by to this particular area. All of these where ruled out with the help of local academics at Universities before we published, thats how detailed we strive to be. The tree photo was 3 weeks after we where howled at and it was in a different part of the forrest
Cheers
Ray
Hi Ray
Delete"All of these where ruled out with the help of local academics at Universities before we published, thats how detailed we strive to be."
I appreciate your attention to detail so I hope that you appreciate mine. Your report does not name any academics nor contains any quotes from them. Are you able to provide the identities of these academics, their universities, and their statements which support your proposition that the location of the photograph is koala-free?
Also, in your report you state that the particular area is "a small forest within a much larger State Forrest". State forests are accessible to the public so can you also provide the location (via Google Maps or something) for verification?
Cheers
Ed (NW)
Koala distribution:
Deletehttp://www.environment.gov.au/biodiversity/threatened/species/pubs/phascolarctos-cinereus-distribution-map.pdf
A technique used widely by ghost-hunters and other paranormal investigators which has found its way into Yowie\Bigfoot research is that of “anomaly hunting” whereby photographs of the surrounding area are taken in bulk and then later examined closely in order to find anomalies – ie images which seem out of place and often interpreted as being that of the desired phenomena (ghosts, lake monsters, UFOs, etc).
DeleteIn Bigfoot\Yowie research, the images produced by such methods are known as “blobsquatches” because in the digital age such images are usually pixelated blobs which vaguely resemble Sasquatch (ie hairy man-apes). A good summary is Loren Coleman’s “The Short History of Blobsquatch” [http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/blobsquatch-history/].
Blobsquatch images are generally not the result of hoaxing but are simply part of a natural human tendency to interpret anomalous data in a favourable manner: “Pareidolia is a psychological phenomenon involving a vague and random stimulus (often an image or sound) being perceived as significant.” [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia]
In the AAP report the photograph in question was preceded by claims of rocks being thrown in the researcher’s direction and a partial sighting of what appeared to be “the back of a low land gorilla” – possibly a juvenile.
“A few minutes later team members heard the strongest and the loudest vocalization to date which was recorded” and presumed to be that of an adult of the species. [Is this recording available for scrutiny? – Ed.] “Shortly there after the team moved to the second station on the eastern river, the adult followed” and the picture in question was taken with an 8 MP camera from 120 metres and described as “bi pedal, standing on its hind legs”.
Was this particular photograph taken because the researchers saw a creature (gorilla) nearly 7ft creature “standing on its hind legs” and observing them “from what they (apes) perceive to be a safe distance” or was this photograph part of a series of photographs which were later examined closely in order to find anomalies – ie anomaly hunting?
If a gorilla was actually sighted at the time on public land within Australia then why is only a single photograph presented as evidence? Multiple photographs from the same spot would surely give an indication as to whether a gorilla was actually present or whether the image is of something else like a koala or simply a trick of the light (pareidolia).
“The object in shot was measured at 6’5 – 7ft” – how was this measurement obtained? Did the researchers go to the actual spot and compare image in the picture to the actual tree in order to document the measurement? If so then can the supporting photographs also be presented?
Cheers
Ed (NW)
BIG News!
ReplyDeleteNigel and Jeannie Francis have now delivered the vrey first authentic Yowie audio in Australian History, from Queensland. Congrats Nigel and Jeannie! The CD is amazing!!!!
A VOC (Voice activated Recorder), was placed at an active and special location not long ago. It was concealed in a plastic bag covered in a special scent. Not only do we have the Yowie finding the bag and ripping it a part on the CD, but also have it's breathing and amazing vocalisations...... as it speaks while it is in the process.
CONGRATS AGAIN TO N & J. Australian History has just been made!
26 Dec 2004 by Dean
This was posted by Dean Harrison on his YowieHunters forum and subsequently removed.
A copy was posted on the forum at http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com on december 30 2004 where it still remains. Feel free to look it up.
So who is being dishonest here, Nigel, and where's the audio now?
Should hoaxers not be held accountable? Please restore my previous post.
Steve if you would have been in the loop back then which you wheir not.You would have known that the sound recording you are talking about was not a hoax but a mistake as Dean had listened to the tape and jumped the gun.He had listened to the wrong part and thought that the Crow YES Crow was a Yowie vocalization.As soon as Jeannie and I wheir aware of it..Being posted we contacted Dean and he removed it.Not my fault your mate hasnt removed it from his site.So if you are going to slander me get it right...Everyone back then knows what happened ,I could give you 6 peoples names off the top of my head that can confirm it was a honest mistake not a HOAX as you are trying make out...As for hoaxs I wont go thier Steven as this is not the place or time...Cheers Nigel
DeleteThank you Nigel! I'm sorry for my suspicions before, I understand your fellow researcher's mistake. Thanks for clearing this up finally :).
DeleteSorry Jay for this But this Person used to be a modirator on another site and was ban and made a normal user as he abused his position..Now it seems he has started here..Sorry again..If you would like Jay I can get Dean to contact you and confirm the misunderstanding and that it was not a Hoax.Cheers Nigel
DeleteThat would be great, thanks Nigel! I'll be sharing the footprint analysis article that you guys have on your blog soon, so I'll confirm it wasn't a hoax in my article. Thanks, you can contact me at bizarrezoology@aol.com
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DeleteJay - if you are planning a career in the natural sciences then just beware that what you pronounce as genuine now can come back to haunt you later. There are good reasons why the Yowie is not listed as a genuine species so look closely at what is presented as evidence, at the complete lack of photographic evidence, at the shady and eccentric characters who pretend to "research" the Yowie, and the long history of Yowie fakery.
ReplyDeleteGo check out The Father of Yowie Research - Rex Gilroy - and have a chat with him about the Yowie and ask him what he thinks of these guys. He also has a lot of Yowie "evidence" including footprint casts - different from what these guys have but no less suspect.
Look up Brett Green from Gympie - the author of several books on the Gympie Pyramid and the Yowie - and have a chat with him, too. He is a big time faker and has been closely associated with other big time Yowie "researchers" that support these guys.
Go on to the Bigfoot Forums and have a chat with Paul Compton (username: Yowiie) - he is sincere (but does he have any actual evidence?) - ask him about the Yowie and the various characters as he is a no-nonsense type.
Finally, put the pieces together yourself in order to solve the Yowie mystery. Don't simply believe what people say - not even me - but go look for yourself and dig deeper.
I won't post here anymore so good luck. You can't say that you didn't know.
I'm sorry for deleting your comments, I just don't want more arguments here. Thank you for trying to warn me, I appreciate it, but I still have no reason to think that these guys are hoaxing me. I've emailed Ray about this and he is the guy who writes all of the articles, so if anyone is being scammed then it would be him. I honestly don't think that this turning out to be a hoax would tarnish my future reputation at all, I have only invested any interest in the footprints they have found. I'm sorry if I have come off as rude, but I just don't want people arguing on my blog. Thanks.
DeleteAAP Report: “Through the assistance of a local academic institutions we where able to rule out known mainstream animals having created these ‘nests’ or ‘beds’ such as Kangaroo’s and Wild Pigs. The only Kangaroo capable of some of these beds are not contained with this area. The species in question is a Red Kangaroo which can reach heights of up to 8 feet in some instances.”
ReplyDeleteAnonymous academics are no more reliable than anonymous non-academics. In my experience, academics are more than willing to not only answer queries in their field of expertise from amateur researchers but also stand by the accuracy of their advice. I recommend consulting Dr Steve Van Dyck - the Senior Curator of vertebrates at Queensland Museum – for advice in these matters. He has an excellent knowledge of the creatures in the Australian bush and a proven record of providing reliable (and non-anonymous) commentary on alleged Yowie evidence.
Again it must be asked: Who was consulted, which academic institutions do they represent, and exactly what did they say? Until clarified it is fair to question the veracity of these anonymous academics – after all, they could be misquoted, professors of Astrology at the local New Age University, or fictitious.
Note that the size of the “beds” cannot be determined from the pictures since there is nothing to indicate scale. However, any medium to large animal that sits, rests, or sleeps will flatten the undergrowth (which acts as a cushion – far more comfortable than bare ground) with its weight alone giving the appearance of “nests” or “beds”. Although not known for red kangaroos, the Sunshine Coast region is prime habitat for eastern grey kangaroos (up to 6 and a half feet in height) along with feral animals including dogs, deer, cattle, pigs, and horses which are all relatively common to the region.
In addition to these, the national parks and state forests of the Sunshine Coast are readily accessible by the public. Bushwalkers, geo-cachers, nature-lovers, fossickers, etc. who go off-trail and travel light also are known to use the cushioning effect of undergrowth and foliage in order to rest (I know that I do too).
AAP Report: “When we began our investigation in river laden national park on Queensland’s Sunshine coast, we began with this hypothesis that we are dealing with an undiscovered great ape. The first item that alerted us to this fact was not the human looking footprints we found and nor was it any other report or witness statements but rather the first grass bed we found in April 2012.”
The above statement highlights a major problem within amateur research – that of confirmation bias i.e. the “tendency of people to favor information that confirms their beliefs or hypotheses. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs.” [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias]
In this manner, then, mundane occurrences like flattened foliage and pixelated images can readily be misinterpreted to suit a pre-existing belief or hypothesis – in this case an undiscovered great ape. It should also be noted that great apes would leave behind great ape prints not human ones but I’ll get onto the footprints a bit later. . .
Cheers
Ed (NW)
Will any of my previous questions be answered?
ReplyDeleteWill any of the points raised be addressed?
Will the requested information be provided?
While waiting for a response I may as well continue...
It may be worthwhile questioning whether any rocks were thrown at the team members and whether there was also any sighting:
AAP Report (Feb 4): “In August 2012 whilst restocking a feeding station, team members had rocks thrown in their direction by what appeared to be a juvenile. A glimpse was caught of its back; in its simplest form it seemed to be the back of a low land gorilla, but in Australia? A few minutes later team members heard the strongest and the loudest vocalization to date which was recorded. This seemed to be the first vocalization from one of the adults. Shortly there after the team moved to the second station on the eastern river”
AAP Report (Feb 6): “this is exact spot that the creature was sitting in when we had the rocks thrown in our direction, he ran from this position showing us his back, shortly there after we recorded the voalisation.”
AAP YouTube: “They had walked down towards the river bank and just had rocks thrown at them the size of bricks.”
Here is the YouTube Footage of the incident - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AKXd8fSwbc
It starts with a shot from a handheld camera showing another team member walking down a well-used dirt track in flat terrain which appears to be State Forest with plantation pine on their right and native flora to the right and native flora to the left which conceals a river or creek. The commentary by the cameraman begins: “We’ve just had rocks thrown at us. . . into the water. Brad is going to try and throw a rock back in the direction. . . maybe 20 metres away.” The person on screen walks a bit further along the track and throws a rock towards the waterway concealed by foliage on the left of screen.
There had been no visual sighting of any air-borne rocks in their direction but rather the sound of something hitting the water nearby which is perhaps incorrectly deduced to be thrown rocks “the size of bricks”. Freshwater turtles are commonly seen in most Queensland waterways and large ones sunning themselves on rocks or logs make a loud “ker-plunck” sound (like that of a brick) when hastily returning to the water when people are near.
The footage continues and at 1:49 an indistinct and barely audible sound is heard and enthusiastically described by the team as “a rare Yowie howl” and “the strongest and the loudest vocalization to date”. What is it really? I’ll get onto the audio a bit later but what I’d like to focus on here is alleged sighting of a juvenile – a “glimpse was caught of its back” – that supposedly occurred sometime after the “rock throwing” claim and before the “Yowie howl” claim. The footage is continuous so it has to be asked: Which team member claimed to see it? And where and when in the footage does this supposed sighting occur? Is this yet another example of confirmation bias?
Cheers
Ed (NW)
I do a lot of bushwalking in the Brisbane north and Sunshine Coast regions and may have identified the possible location of AAP “habituation” site - http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/3241/possibleaapsite.jpg
ReplyDeleteBeerburrum (East) State Forest -
http://www.nprsr.qld.gov.au/parks/beerburrum-beerwah/index.html
http://maps.bonzle.com/c/a?a=p&p=56155&cmd=sp
http://blog.neilennis.com/index.php/beerburrum-state-forest-2/
http://statements.qld.gov.au/Statement/2013/3/1/call-for-green-army-to-help-clean-up-beerburrum-state-forest
Other possible locations are a bit further up the coast but they are much smaller areas and very close to dense residential areas - http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/6941/possibleaapsite2.jpg
How could any of these areas sustain a single great ape let alone an entire family? All are popular locations for a wide range of recreational activities. Could someone from the AAP team state the actual location of their alleged “habituation site”? Why the need for secrecy on well-used public land?
Cheers
Ed (NW)
Hi Ed! Thanks for your comments. I am not a part of the group, and therefore I cannot speak on behalf of them. Please ask Ray at http://theaustralianapeproject.blogspot.com/.
DeleteAs I do not have a Google Account, LiveJournal, WordPress, TypePad, AIM, or OpenID profile (and little desire to make one) I cannot post my questions there. I tried to send you (Jay) an email too but it wouldn't send so if you'd like to have a chat please contact me via the email in my webpage (http://home.yowieocalypse.com/). I will send the AAP an email but, like the claims, I prefer to keep discussions in the open for all to see. After all, Ray and Nigel were quick to respond to other comments so why not mine? Are my questions and comments irrelevant or unreasonable?
ReplyDeleteIn the meantime I would like to continue to comment with my own ideas regarding this post if that is ok with you - I hope you are not solely interested in the hooray-for-Bigfoot type of comments. The claims and evidence of the AAP habituation site deserve closer scrutiny as to whether they are authentic, misidentified, or fictional. In any case much can be learned about the nature of the Yowie phenomenon...